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Suspicious Voter Registration Call

2 May, 2008

I received a suspicious automated phone call recently concerning voter registration. I emailed the North Carolina State Board of Elections. Here is the exchange.

Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:59:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: “J.S.Brown”
Subject: Phone call about voter registration
To: elections.sboe

I just received a phone call. It was a recorded message that said something like this:

“Hello. This is Lamont Williams. In a few days you should be getting a voter registration form in the mail. Please fill it out and return promptly and you will be able to vote. Thank you.”

Is this legitimate? I thought I was already registered to vote. Should I ignore whatever arrives in my mailbox concerning voter registration? And who is Lamont Williams?

Subject: FW: Phone call about voter registration
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:42:53 -0400
From: “Don Wright”
To: “J.S.Brown”

The State Board of Elections knows nothing of this. If you get anything from this man or group, fax to my attention at [FAX NUMBER REMOVED] and we will investigate.

Don Wright
General Counsel

The automated phone call seems, to me, like an attempt to trick new, unregistered, and unsure voters into submitting sensitive personal information. So far, I haven’t yet received any mail about voter registration. For now, it’s no more than a suspicious phone call. I advise everyone to be cautious.

I apologize for not posting this sooner.

To Pray or to Reason

1 May, 2008

Astoundingly, today is National Day of Prayer in the USA. Fortunately, there are some smart people in this country who have countered it by starting a National Day of Reason, which falls on the same day.

This day offers a choice: will you pray, or will you reason? It’s an easy choice for me. I’ve tried both. Only one has ever been useful to me.

I wrote about this last year, though my blog was on Yahoo! 360° at the time. I brought that post with me to WordPress. You can read it here, if interested.

PZ has a good post on this today: Happy National Day of Prayer!

Todd Bentley’s revival continues

21 April, 2008

Mary wrote to me on MySpace to tell me that the healing revival in Florida, with Todd Bentley, will be on at 7:00 PM this week. Since I missed the shows on Saturday and Sunday, which I wrote about, I decided to watch tonight. It’s still on now…

I tuned-in at 7:00 PM. After about ten minutes, I realized the music portion of the show was to come first. I flipped back and forth, checking for something new. The band played what sounds, to me, like one boring, never-ending, horrible song. The keyboard player / singer actually whistled at one point.

Todd Bentley didn’t come on stage until 84 minutes into the show. From the first time I saw him, he was lying. Seriously, he was outstretched on the floor, shaking his head, and possibly drooling. I call that metaphorical Freudian foreshadowing.

It’s now almost 9:00. He’s still preaching / ranting. So far, there has been no healing, or even any “healing.” The only highlight was his anecdote about seeing a “light” in Applebee’s earlier today. And then “the angel of the lord” appeared there. Unbelievable.

I simply can’t tolerate anymore of this. I held out as long as I could. Holy shit!

Florida Healing Revival – LIVE

19 April, 2008

…anyone who can demonstrate the existence of the supernatural and/or paranormal. I am also interested in meeting anyone who can demonstrate faith as a valid epistemic strategy.

That’s what I wrote on my profile at MySpace in the “Who I’d like to meet” section. So far, no one like that has come along. It’s possible, however, that things are about to change.

Earlier this week, a MySpace friend, Mary (click with caution: awful religious music, plus the typical religious cheese), suggested in my “comments” section that I should watch the Florida Healing Revival, live with Todd Bentley. She said he may be able to demonstrate the supernatural or paranormal to me. Yay!

A few days ago, I posted a bulletin about a revival going on in florida that you can watch live over the internet, or if you have Direct TV, it will be on live the 18, 19, & 20th on ch.365. A man named Todd Bentley, is the one who went there to have a conference, and now he doesn’t know when he’s leaving. I know it will interest you. The man is strange, not like any “preacher” you’ve ever seen, he’s got tatoos all over, and says weird things. It will entertain you to say the least, and I thought you might enjoy it. This is not like watching a church service, when he comes out, all kinds of stuff starts happening. Just thought it might be of some interest to you. So if you’re bored at 7P.M., click on, http://www.ustream.tv/channel/great-florida-healing-revival

He may be able to “demonstrate the supernatural or paronormal” to you, since different things happen every night, and you have stated you want to meet somebody like that. I am reading one of his books, and I haven’t even heard of some of the things he says, like, transporting, (your body going to another place) being able to go into the heavens, seeing the supernatural. I honestly have never met a christian that believes the way he does.

I checked it out. The “healing revival” airs the 18th and 19th on GodTV (seriously) at 7:00PM ET on DirecTV channel 365. I have my satellite box set so I won’t miss the show, if I’m around to watch. So, will it convince me that the supernatural and/or paranormal are legitimate? I’m skeptical. Here is my response to her.

You’re right that I am interested in meeting those people who can demonstrate the supernatural or paranormal. Seeing someone perform on television doesn’t qualify. I have seen the shows of a number of tele-evangelists in which they claim to heal members from the audience, or receive and relay messages from “god.” I’m not convinced. I have no way to know if they are actually doing what they claim. The same will likely apply to the performer in Florida.

We’ll see what happens. On a side note, I’ve been watching (mostly listening to) GodTV while writing this. I find it naive, overly dramatic, and vomit-inducing. Christianity has a special ability to be lame, cheesy, and disgusting in a way of which no other endeavor is capable. Amen.

*Update (21 April): I was gone all weekend, so I didn’t get the chance to see the show. If anyone has a link to highlights or reviews, post them below.

“my sentiments exactly”

27 January, 2008

Below is a brief exchange from Yahoo’s Christian Chat:12, on the morning of 27 January. It reveals an amazing level of religious devotion that I can’t understand. This is what makes religion dangerous – when facts are not as important as faith. If someone claims to seek, or know the truth (sometimes capitalized lol) and then acts like this, you can be sure that truth is not what matters to them.

b_dizzle_02: have u watched raised from the dead?
b_dizzle_02: it’s a movie about this pastor in africa who was raised from the dead….
b_dizzle_02: it’s really cool….
b_dizzle_02: yeah, it’s true
b_dizzle_02: no acting
b_dizzle_02: the thing about it…it’s like a call to the lost…to seek His face….we’re literally living in the last days before He comes again….
jsbrown28625: About that guy in africa who was supposedley raised from the dead…
jsbrown28625: It seems to be a hoax. I read an article written by a guy who went over there to do an interview and get the facts.

jsbrown28625: Concerning Daniel Ekechukwu, the pastor in Africa who was supposedly brought back from death… http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/aah/igwe_11_3.htm
jsbrown28625: In my opinion, everyone should be skeptical of this sort of thing. Check the facts; not just the stories in favor of it.
jsbrown28625: The link I posted describes an attempt to investigate the account and get to the facts.

b_dizzle_02: it’s ok…since god considers the wisdom of this world to be foolish, i’d be a fool to check the “facts” when the Bible is so incredibly real to me…i don’t really expect you to comprehend that…
jsbrown28625: So, if it is a hoax, your naivety will have led you into a mistake.
jsbrown28625: That truly is foolish.
jsbrown28625: That is your choice. If you change your mind, let me know.
jsbrown28625: I will say no more about it.

b_dizzle_02: even if it was a “hoax”, that could do little to change the Word, who became flesh and dwell among us…
jsbrown28625: This has nothing to do with “the Word.” It is about exposing false claims.
jsbrown28625: If you are as gullible as you claim, there is nothing I can say to you. It is a fruitless endeavor.
jsbrown28625: I wish you a pleasant day. Goodbye.

b_dizzle_02: my sentiments exactly

Omni-Deception

19 December, 2007

The Christian God (and others) is commonly described as being omnipotent and omniscient. Omnibenevolence is also included regularly. Belief that God exists is said to require faith because it is not observable. Some even go so far as to say that humans lack the capacity to comprehend it. Stipulating the existence of God and its revelation…How can any human know or have any amount of certainty that God isn’t actually evil, having lied about its own nature?

An omnipotent, omniscient God would know just how to deceive humankind, and be able to do so with ease. And since there is no way to observe the nature of God, we are without the ability to overcome such deception. Some will immediately respond by saying that God can’t or won’t lie because it is good. The problem is, their information about its goodness was revealed by God itself, which could be false.

An extension of this would be to ask if Satan might actually be good rather than evil. Consider that all of the information in Christianity about Satan comes from God. That poor devil has never been able to share his side of the story!

My Demon

31 July, 2007

Yesterday, I was sharing a recent news story with my (devout Christian) mother. It’s about a grandfather who performed an “exorcism” on his three-year-old grand-daughter. I explained how, when the police arrived, the child was in a headlock, bleeding, gasping for air, and screaming. Her mother was there too, standing naked and chanting some religious nonsense. My mother shook her head in disapproval as I continued.

I explained that the grandfather later died from unknown causes, and thus couldn’t be charged with anything. Then I added that the authorities were still considering charging the mother.

“She should be charged, don’t you think?” she said.

I agreed, and then things went weird.

My mother said, “But some people do have demons. You have at least one.”

Now I know that my mother is generally nutty, religiously, but most of her doctrinal views are moderate. She’s nutty about the supernaturalism. In the past, she mentioned me being deceived by Satan and having a demon, but I dismissed it as humor because I’m an atheist. Apparently it wasn’t a joke. She also claims to have seen a manifestation of Jesus in her bedroom, as well as having a guardian angel physically push her car out of the way in a close-call with a truck. Anyway…

So I asked, “Do you sincerely believe that am possessed by a demon?”

“I do,” she said, “Why else would you act the way you do? Satan already has you, and knows how strong my faith is. He is trying to use you to get to me.”

I’ll give you the summary without going through all of that dialog. She explained that I seem obsessed with religion and atheism, and that it’s all I think about. Because of this, she concluded that I have a demon… correction, “at least one” demon.

She is partially correct. I am passionate about what is true in all things. It’s just that, as things are in the world, religion seems to have a stronghold on doing stupid things that harm others, based on superstitious beliefs. Educating myself about such things helps me better discuss the ideas with others, and possibly to change a few people’s minds. This is definitely an important topic to me. Does that mean I am possessed by demons?

I pointed out that what she described implicates a lot of Christians. A lot of them are obsessed with Jesus and the Bible, and it’s all they spend their time on. She admitted that they might have demons too. Seriously. (Remember kiddies – don’t be passionate about anything. it’s of da devil.)

I took a different approach, hoping to show how silly she was being. I asked if she had ever seen a demon, particularly the one(s) in me. She hadn’t. I asked if demons are visible. She said they aren’t. I asked if demons are material beings. She said they aren’t.

So… Demons can’t be seen. They aren’t made of anything, so they can’t be felt. Since there is no matter, they can’t been heard, smelled or tasted either. That’s all five senses! I explained this to my mother, and then asked how she knew about the demon(s) possessing me since they are unobservable. She said, “I just can’t understand how anyone would act the way you do unless it was a demon.” That’s it! An argument from personal incredulity!

I tried to explain the logical fallacy she committed, but she didn’t seem to care. Poor reasoning or not, she is already convinced. I also told her that it’s a mistake to claim certainty about something with apparently no evidence and based on a clear logical error.

I said, “You could be wrong though, right?”

“I could be, but I’m not,” she responded.

This is a good example of how moderate religious adherents actually allow and encourage the more extreme and fundamentalist type among them. It’s not that believing that demons possess humans is ridiculous. No, she believes it. The only difference is that my mother doesn’t have the conviction (or strength) to strangle demons out of possessed people. I’m grateful, and so would be many others who have been diagnosed in her presence.

Dumbfounded by Pareidolia

15 July, 2007

I was in a Yahoo chat room a few minutes ago, and I fellow called universalsoldier91791 offered evidence to me for the existence of “god.” He gave me a link, which I normally don’t like to accept. I’m almost always expected to do all of the work without the chance to share my response. But I asked him if I could get back to him about it, and he said “sure.”

The page wasn’t a long read, or even a short read. It includes only two images- One is of his face, and the other is of his neck. He claims that Jesus’ face appeared on him after praying… Seriously.

So I returned to the room after viewing “the evidence” and explained that I didn’t see Jesus, or anyone else. You’ll never guess why.

I understand that…unless you are of Christ you wont see it[.] [O]nly those of christ can see it[.] It is encrypted[.]

How convenient. And only crazy people hear voices. In case you’re wondering, his images are blurry because his scanner isn’t very good. That’s what he said anyway. I am amazed that he actually posted it online as his testimony! WOW!

Should I tell him that the Shroud of Turin doesn’t show the face of Jesus either? LOL

“my prayer is gonna be different”

28 June, 2007

shining_warrior: hello, i just wanted to drop you a message and tell you i am praying for you and hope you find truth and life here on earth
atheist_jsbrown: What is your prayer?
atheist_jsbrown: You should know that I have already found both truth and life here on Earth.
atheist_jsbrown: No need to pray for that! ;)
shining_warrior: i pray that you will know that you are loved and were created by a kivind all-powerful God who has great plans for you
atheist_jsbrown: Anything else?
shining_warrior: Yah lots of thing but i bet you could guess all the rest
atheist_jsbrown: I am interested in your entire prayer.
atheist_jsbrown: I invite you to pray all of it now, and type it as you go.
shining_warrior: what is your name?
atheist_jsbrown: <—- J
shining_warrior: Lord Jesus, I ask you right now to show J your power, to open his eyes the the one truth, yourself, I ask you to protect him always in everything he does and do not let him leave this earth without his soul being saved. show your mighty power to him now, hit him with your holy spirit right now in the name of jesus. set his heart ablaze with you
shining_warrior: you will be hit with the spirit of truth, brother, i proclaim it in the name of Jesus, you will see things you have never seen before
shining_warrior: you will realize the truth and realize how wonderful your life is meant to be. your destiny will come into place and u will do great things in ur lifetime
shining_warrior: u were createed for a great purpose, and i call u into that purpose in the name of jesus, stop choosing this world and all its traps
shining_warrior: recieve the truth now
atheist_jsbrown: All done then?
shining_warrior: sure
atheist_jsbrown: If you don’t mind, I would like to know a few basic things about you.
atheist_jsbrown: Most important is your religion and denomination / sect.
shining_warrior: religion causes division, people change religions like they change clothes, there is only one truth, i only claim to have Jesus and the bible, no religion
atheist_jsbrown: So you are a Christian then.
shining_warrior: yeah
atheist_jsbrown: That’s a religion.
shining_warrior: maybe so but i dont claim it, atheism is considered a religion too
atheist_jsbrown: …According to the common usage of the word offerd by the average dictionary, it’s a religion. That is what I am going by.
atheist_jsbrown: No, atheism isn’t considered a religion by any suc definition. This, however, is irrelevant at this time.
atheist_jsbrown: We’re almost finished.
atheist_jsbrown: What is your age, gender, and location?
atheist_jsbrown: Share only what want.
shining_warrior: 21 f tn, what is your purpose for knowing?
atheist_jsbrown: I document the prayers of people like yourself. I have been doing so for years.
shining_warrior: what for?
atheist_jsbrown: The list is more interesting when I know about the people involved.
atheist_jsbrown: If your prayer is answered, then I know who to thank. If it isn’t, then it goes along with the rest as apparent failure.
atheist_jsbrown: Either way, I benefit by keeping up with them.
shining_warrior: well i assure you, my prayer is gonna be different than others, because you are about to be hit with something u have never experienced before, my friend
atheist_jsbrown: Yes, well I’ve heard that before.
atheist_jsbrown: It might surprise you how many people say the very same things.
atheist_jsbrown: You will be #80 on the list. I post it online.
atheist_jsbrown: Would you like to be informed when I update the list with your prayer?
shining_warrior: sure but it won’t happen
atheist_jsbrown: What won’t happen?
shining_warrior: i wont be added to the list well, maybe u wil add it but then u will have to remove it
atheist_jsbrown: Why is that?
shining_warrior: ur life is fixing to change and i am positive about it not just a hope i know
atheist_jsbrown: We can only wait and see what happens.
atheist_jsbrown: Success or failure – all prayers go on the list and remain there.
atheist_jsbrown: If you decide you want to add prayers later, just let me know. I am happy to update the list anytime.
shining_warrior: alright, i wish u well, and ask u to keep ur heart open to whatever happens in the next couple of days
atheist_jsbrown: I think you mean my mind i.e. to be objective.
atheist_jsbrown: I try always to remain objective.
atheist_jsbrown: Thank you for contributing to the list.
atheist_jsbrown: I wish you a pleasant day.

A Mormon Promise

15 June, 2007

A nice girl from the LDS church named Rachel called me last night. She was doing a follow up on me. Months ago (maybe a year) I requested free copies of the King James version of the Bible and the book of Mormon. I did so for the purpose of learning about the Mormons so I would be prepared if I encounter them.

She wanted to know if I was enjoying the books. I told her that the small amount of reading I had done in them was useful. Then I let her know that I am an atheist, and why I requested them. I also told her that I had helped a Mormon woman successfully deconvert. She was literally speechless! Anyway, since I had her on the phone, I decided to make things difficult by challenging some of her Mormon beliefs. Regardless of my question, her response was always, “I just know that it’s a true book.”

I like “true books.” I want to read “true books.” Was this a “true book?” I was excited. I asked how she knew that the book of Mormon was true. She said that she wanted to witness that she had read Moroni 10:3-5 and prayed concerning the passage. This led to a feeling that she had that made her feel sure that it’s a true book! Wow!

[3] Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how merciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the creation of Adam even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and ponder it in your hearts.

[4] And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.

[5] And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.

I hear this same sort of talk from people of various religions. It’s a personal experience. It’s a special connection between “god” and the individual. It all sounds amazing. Oh, and it’s all completely lacking evidence. It can’t be tested. I can not know if any of them are telling the truth. That’s a problem for me. I shared this problem with Rachel. Fortunately for me, and you, she had a solution.

Rachel promised me that if I read the passages she shared with me and prayed sincerely about them, that I would receive an answer that the book of Mormon was true. She obviously hadn’t thought through any of it.

How can I, an atheist, pray sincerely to a god that I don’t believe exists? I can no more do this than write a sincere letter to Santa Claus requesting toys for next Christmas. It gets worse. The passage also states that I must have faith in Christ, which I don’t. It also mentions that I should remember how merciful the Lord has been, which I don’t. This is an impossible task.

I explained these things to her, yet she insisted that I go through with it anyway. She also thanked me for agreeing to give it a try. It’s circular. To receive this revelation that the book of Mormon is true, and thus know that a god exists, I must believe that a god exists and trust the book of Mormon. And how can I trust the book of Mormon? [begin chasing tail here]

This is a common problem with this sort of thing. I am willing to give them a fair chance. The problem is that they ask for impossibilities. She is safe with making such a promise. I can’t do what she asks. When it doesn’t work, there are plenty of excuses already built in. Falsifiability is an important part of determining if a claim is vaild, or even worth dealing with. It’s unreasonable to offer nonfalsifiable claims to someone with the expectation of being believed. But then this stuff never seems to be about reason anyway. I found this to be true with Rachel too.

Near the end of our 30+ minute phone conversation, Rachel revealed something interesting to me. She said that, no matter what the evidence, or lack of it, she would believe that the book of Mormon was right anyway. This was based on her feeling that I mentioned earlier. She is close-minded. The quest is over. The possibility that she is wrong is ruled out. Why should I take a person like this seriously? …especially about such fantastic and bizarre claims!

(My apologies for the wanderings of this post. I just sort of ranted through it.)